I love how the narrators were intentional about telling the true history about Washington and the colonies. We are thought it was about taxation without representation but that isnt the full story. It was also about colonial settlers expanding into Native land and they felt that it was their right to expand. The true story about who George Washington was....the nuance of him as someone who was an enslaver and settler and felt that he should do as he pleased without being held in check by the crown. Anyway, great episode! Also Boston...jeez...lol
I noticed the narratives about many small communities springing up "Sons of Liberty" and "Daughters of Liberty" chapters to foster local demonstrations of solidarity and actions to promote resistance. We have a goodly heritage.
Baratunde- I watched Episode 1 last night and you hit on major points showing a reckoning with what Cornel West/Prof Uribe called America’s underbelly in thei American Progressivism class. One thing that crossed my mind when I first heard Christopher Brown’s quote that you cited about principles uniting such disparate peoples was Yuval’s point in Sapiens about individuals organizing behind an idea greater than all of them individually.
I think central to the origin myth that needs examination and reckoning is the personification of deist ideals in the flawed and self-interested men who publicly espoused them. How that myth morphs as we who heard the apole tree story about George unsettles inasmuch as dethroning Pluto as a planet.
We are a young country - my mother and her people come from around Utrecht- a 900-year old city that predated Amsterdam. The famed Dutch live and let live tolerance was easy when heterogeneity was split along how one felt about the pope, tougher but not impossible when Surinamese and Indonesian folks emigrated keeping a common language and shared favorite foods- followed by massive Turkish migration. After Theo Van Gogh’s murder, the edge of tolerance and plurality has come to a head when language is lost and humanist ideals clash. The U.S., for all its flaws, has had a rougher go of it from the start but has managed to keep ideals and principles as a beacon despite insularity. These are strange times and hopefully a blip in the march toward a more inclusive and harmonious best origin story.
I wonder if the Trump administration knew this was coming down the pipeline, so that's why they defunded PBS. Makes one wonder. The truth will always come out, sooner or later and it will set you free.
I'm not so keen on this time period, but want to be part of the group...gonna have to watch! The quote from Canasatego is beautiful - reminds me of Paul. (I'm not always keen on him, either.)
45 minutes in to the podcast. Wow!!! I’m going to be binge watching your pbs show. A sentence to just said jumped out at me and I’m still reeling. I was driving so I couldn’t write it down, but basically what I heard was that the 50,000 plus people who escaped lives of enslavement by living in the swamp were doing it for a life that was a ‘little more free’. Again, wow.
We learn in our education that there were two states of being. Enslaved. And free. But that wasn’t true back then and isn’t true now. It’s hard for me to find words to express the notion of surviving what most people would consider unsurvivable, all with the HOPE of getting to live life (or your children or their children) a little more free.
I’m thinking about Palestinians now, too. What do they have to look forward to? Perhaps to a future where they are a little more free.
I love how the narrators were intentional about telling the true history about Washington and the colonies. We are thought it was about taxation without representation but that isnt the full story. It was also about colonial settlers expanding into Native land and they felt that it was their right to expand. The true story about who George Washington was....the nuance of him as someone who was an enslaver and settler and felt that he should do as he pleased without being held in check by the crown. Anyway, great episode! Also Boston...jeez...lol
I noticed the narratives about many small communities springing up "Sons of Liberty" and "Daughters of Liberty" chapters to foster local demonstrations of solidarity and actions to promote resistance. We have a goodly heritage.
Baratunde- I watched Episode 1 last night and you hit on major points showing a reckoning with what Cornel West/Prof Uribe called America’s underbelly in thei American Progressivism class. One thing that crossed my mind when I first heard Christopher Brown’s quote that you cited about principles uniting such disparate peoples was Yuval’s point in Sapiens about individuals organizing behind an idea greater than all of them individually.
I think central to the origin myth that needs examination and reckoning is the personification of deist ideals in the flawed and self-interested men who publicly espoused them. How that myth morphs as we who heard the apole tree story about George unsettles inasmuch as dethroning Pluto as a planet.
We are a young country - my mother and her people come from around Utrecht- a 900-year old city that predated Amsterdam. The famed Dutch live and let live tolerance was easy when heterogeneity was split along how one felt about the pope, tougher but not impossible when Surinamese and Indonesian folks emigrated keeping a common language and shared favorite foods- followed by massive Turkish migration. After Theo Van Gogh’s murder, the edge of tolerance and plurality has come to a head when language is lost and humanist ideals clash. The U.S., for all its flaws, has had a rougher go of it from the start but has managed to keep ideals and principles as a beacon despite insularity. These are strange times and hopefully a blip in the march toward a more inclusive and harmonious best origin story.
Looking forward to episode 2.
I wonder if the Trump administration knew this was coming down the pipeline, so that's why they defunded PBS. Makes one wonder. The truth will always come out, sooner or later and it will set you free.
I'm not so keen on this time period, but want to be part of the group...gonna have to watch! The quote from Canasatego is beautiful - reminds me of Paul. (I'm not always keen on him, either.)
Love the "don't mess with boston" bit, and the rest of the analysis, from social media.
45 minutes in to the podcast. Wow!!! I’m going to be binge watching your pbs show. A sentence to just said jumped out at me and I’m still reeling. I was driving so I couldn’t write it down, but basically what I heard was that the 50,000 plus people who escaped lives of enslavement by living in the swamp were doing it for a life that was a ‘little more free’. Again, wow.
We learn in our education that there were two states of being. Enslaved. And free. But that wasn’t true back then and isn’t true now. It’s hard for me to find words to express the notion of surviving what most people would consider unsurvivable, all with the HOPE of getting to live life (or your children or their children) a little more free.
I’m thinking about Palestinians now, too. What do they have to look forward to? Perhaps to a future where they are a little more free.